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One day hence

My schedule has again been changed to random days with no notice, so I am apparently working tonight, after which I (supposedly) have a day off -- I will move the deadline thusly. jp×g 🗯️ 19:02, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well, more time to double-check everything! : ) Oltrepier (talk) 20:23, 21 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, I am alive. This looks like it will be a relatively normal issue. jp×g 🗯️ 06:52, 23 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

What's a normal issue? Monday or Tuesday? And how can this be a normal issue when I'm on the record at In the media saying It's the end of the world or maybe just the End of Wikipedia as we know it?

There are 7-8 good articles, essentially ready to go. I should withdraw the Op-ed. It's a great article and I'm proud to have written it, but it's 3 weeks out of date. Publish it if you want to, it's a great article. I may try to replace it with the same topic, just up-to-date. But don't wait on me and delay publishing. You never know what might come up. There are 2-3 articles that just look too short IMHO, without enough content. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 05:33, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To be fair, JPxG had already updated the deadline template (which I would recommend watchlisting in any case). Regards, HaeB (talk) 05:52, 24 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JPxG: Today is the publishing deadline. How are things looking? QuicoleJR (talk) 19:52, 25 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Since we haven't heard from JPxG again and are way past the already postponed deadline:

@Bri: would you be available to take over publication as previously, assuming other team members help out with tying up the remaining loose ends at Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/Newsroom#Article status (in particular mark individual sections as copyedited and approve them standing in for the EiC)? Regards, HaeB (talk) 04:29, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose that means it will be me in the morning (about ten hours from now). jp×g 🗯️ 09:17, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I can stand by as backup to run the publication script. ☆ Bri (talk) 14:53, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

To be more clear about the Op-ed, I'll withdraw that submission. It's just too old to be news. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 19:33, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JPxG @Bri Just so you know, I've managed to go through and copy-edit almost every column in the last few hours.

Now I feel so tired and dizzy that it feels like words are racing in front of my eyes, but still, I hope this helps... : ) Oltrepier (talk) 22:56, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JPxG: You okay? ☆ Bri (talk) 03:49, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Per the above I just approved one of the sections (that I wasn't involved in writing myself). If other regulars could chip in too, we could have things ready for Bri to get the issue out soon. Regards, HaeB (talk) 04:35, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Rather plokho but the issue is looking good and there is not much more to do now. jp×g 🗯️ 08:10, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry to hear about the plokhoni (? my Russian isn't that good), but glad the issue is wrapped! ☆ Bri (talk) 17:38, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Out. Annoying as hell error with the script that even my improved logging functions did not give any clue of determining. Had to manually revert and try again. No idea why it failed. May need to throttle pagemove queries. Whatever. That is in an HTML note here. Anyway;. jp×g 🗯️ 10:28, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Talk page can be seen at Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2025-02-27 (as is linked up there). jp×g 🗯️ 11:15, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

21:3 Op-ed

I'm withdrawing this submission. Make that "I'll blank it". Smallbones_(smalltalk) 19:35, 26 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Obituaries

It seems the last time we actually had an obituary was some time around July. Not optimal. The obvious thing would be to just shove everyone into a single obituary to catch us up, but this feels somewhat disrespectful -- one editor gets a whole article if they happen to die while we're caught up, and otherwise they are one in a list of seven? However, it occurs to me that the rate at which people die (or at least the rate at which [[WP:RIP|new entries are added to the list of deceased editors) is not very fast -- we do 4 issues every 3 months, and there have been seven obituaries at WP:RIP between last July and now, so I think that just doing one or two per issue would catch us up through all of them in the next three issues, without having to crowd it up too much. I am doing two for this issue; the next issue should be Wardxmodem and Afil, then after that TomCat4680 and JarrahTree, then after that Yashthepunisher -- and anyone who is added after that (note that they are not always strictly chronologically added, as someone can just stop editing for a while and it is only found out they've passed away later). jp×g 🗯️ 10:03, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JPxG Sounds good, thank you for reporting this. Oltrepier (talk) 11:28, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've prepped an obit for next issue and next next issue. Still needs to have some formatting, title, and actual authors put in (e.g. the poeple who actually wrote them on WP:RIP, not me who just created the page). jp×g 🗯️ 02:32, 4 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

French Wikipedia vs. Le Point in the media

Hello! To whom it may concern, it looks like the ongoing controversy involving the French Wikipedia and Le Point has sparked a frenzy in the media, especially in France: so far, I've managed to retrieve articles from Le Monde, Le Parisien – which published two different articles on the subject – La Voix du Nord and Le Figaro. The story drew attention from magazines all over the political spectrum, including left-wing Politis, as well as Marianne, a former progressive magazine that has seemingly undergone a dramatic shift to the right in recent years (although they've just appointed a journalist from Libération as their new director), and has apparently been a subject of discussion itself by Les sans pagEs at fr.wiki.

Oh, there are also two other articles by Ici Radio-Canada (in audio format and in French) and the Brussels Signal (the only one in English, at least for now).

I don't know how we can handle all of this for the next ITM column, but I've got a feeling that this case isn't going to fade away anytime soon... Oltrepier (talk) 13:50, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

We are definitely going to need to put this as one of the main blurbs in next issue's In The Media. QuicoleJR (talk) 17:46, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@QuicoleJR Absolutely, and I expect even more to come in the next few weeks. Oltrepier (talk) 20:53, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

21:4 issue deadline

Hello! Since the deadline for next issue hasn't been agreed to, yet, I just wanted to let you know that any choice would be fine to me: I've resumed uni classes, so I won't have much spare time, anyway... : D Oltrepier (talk) 11:52, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I boldly picked a mid March Sunday for publication amd reset the timer. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:33, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Turns out to be a Monday, actually ;)

But thanks for jumping in there. (We should look again at having the publication script automatically set a default publication date for the upcoming issue.)

@JPxG can you confirm you will be available to finalize and publish this issue tonight? Otherwise it would be good to update the deadline template and/or initialize the usual contingency plans (assuming Bri could take on publication).

Right now e.g. ITM still looks very drafty and N&N hasn't even been started yet. RR already has one item that folks are welcome to copyedit, I hope to have the rest up in publishable soon too, but more likely by like 4:00 UTC. I could then also help out with wrapping up ITM if needed.

Regards, HaeB (talk) 21:38, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am working on some code that, if finished, might make some stuff easier. I guess we will have to see what we got. jp×g 🗯️ 00:00, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

OK. Given the current state of the issue (6 out of 8 draft sections not even yet marked as "Ready for copyedit"), I just took the liberty of moving the deadline by a day - feel free to adjust with a more precise estimate. Regards, HaeB (talk) 03:57, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking this myself. There is some very good stuff in this issue, though, so I think it will be good-- just needs some time, which I shall have tomorrow. jp×g 🗯️ 04:22, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I started News and notes, but it doesn't really have any content other than two RfAs to report. I won't have hurt feelings if it's held over. ☆ Bri (talk) 04:31, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bri and JPxG: Well, there was a lot of news about the Le Point situation in France, as I reported previously, but maybe that's more suitable for ITM.

On a side note, I apologize for almost missing out entirely on this issue: my uni schedule is getting pretty hectic! Oltrepier (talk) 07:54, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There sure is more material worth covering, e.g. [1] (in particular the CentralNotice policy changes) and [2] (in particular recent lawsuits we haven't covered yet). Regards, HaeB (talk) 08:04, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I just wanted to note that I'll try to go through and copy-edit some of the articles (at the very least) later tonight. Oltrepier (talk) 11:37, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Greenlandic_Wikipedia There's this, there's also the lightning fast admin recall, also that big resysopping thing at BN. jp×g 🗯️ 01:50, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

commons:Commons:Village_pump#March_2025_update_from_WMF_Legal_on_"Vogue_Taiwan_and_possible_Copyright_Washing"_discussion, Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/AI_images jp×g 🗯️ 02:44, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Besides these, I have another hopefully interesting piece for N&N almost written up, which should help in providing this section with enough substance for publication. I should be able to post that in about 10h from now and also get RR into publishable shape. Regards, HaeB (talk) 07:22, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Now that I have finished the software to look at the noticeboards and village pumps, I think there is probably some recent stuff we can use for N&N. Unfortunately it took quite a bit longer than I expected, as I am now completely pooped. The issue has a lot of good stuff I would like to expand on a little and then it looks like it will be good to roam.

I would exhort everyone to take a look in the collapser down here and see if there's anything worth throwing in there... I plan to write some more on these for the next issue's discussion report (as we have basically stopped having those except as occasional features) but we could spare some for this one as well. jp×g 🗯️ 19:49, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JPxG Wow, there were a lot of threads in there! My humble guess is that either the Kash Patel situation or the discussion about suspected POV pushing of the Iranian government would be the most interesting topic to discuss. Oltrepier (talk) 20:01, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, uh, no notice on this, and I didn't get any either: I have apparently been scheduled for three back-to-back shifts with zero notice on the days I was supposed to have off, including the day I have to drive two hours the other direction for a DMV appointment I had to wait a month for which is necessary to register my vehicle -- hell yeah dude that's awesome. Well I guess I am just sleeping in my fucking car tonight so you will have to publish without me. jp×g 🗯️ 20:05, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JPxG Well, that's a shame... but don't worry, we'll be fine! : ) Oltrepier (talk) 20:58, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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AN	Current	Is SPI overwhelmed?	33280	61	67	55	52	10	2025-03-03 19:25:00	2025-03-14 20:41:00
AN	Current	Creations by banned or blocked users -- must they always be speedily deleted per WP:G5?	69880	116	131	100	71	11	2025-03-15 09:17:00	2025-03-19 19:07:00
AN	Current	An administrator recall petition for Master Jay has been closed	29134	58	63	47	55	8	2025-03-18 09:26:00	2025-03-19 17:53:00
AN	369	CBAN appeal - Roxy the Dog	57739	113	140	105	85	20	2025-02-14 18:02:00	2025-02-19 07:59:00
AN	369	Request for closure review: Topic Ban of EMsmile	26950	36	40	30	30	8	2025-02-19 12:11:00	2025-02-21 05:24:00
AN	369	Article being reported to cyber police	37064	72	95	72	49	11	2025-02-19 01:03:00	2025-02-21 23:48:00
AN	369	Threats and ad-hominems being used to bully editor	55083	50	57	51	32	8	2025-02-24 03:12:00	2025-02-28 00:06:00
AN	369	Appealing my I-ban	37149	46	58	44	30	17	2025-03-03 14:43:00	2025-03-04 14:25:00
AN	369	Arbitration enforcement action appeal by Toa Nidhiki05	65250	46	49	44	38	12	2025-02-24 07:52:00	2025-03-08 06:01:00
AN	368	Block appeal for User:Aman.kumar.goel	38084	72	64	59	81	7	2025-01-10 08:51:00	2025-01-11 10:33:00
AN	368	Lardlegwarmers block appeal	27741	40	46	37	49	6	2025-01-16 11:00:00	2025-01-17 23:53:00
AN	368	WP:BLPN closures	33888	68	68	70	39	17	2025-01-22 03:24:00	2025-01-24 15:03:00
AN	368	Original author of Lauren Handy refusing to allow new edits without their approval	31587	63	80	59	48	13	2025-01-28 03:53:00	2025-01-31 02:52:00
AN3	490	User:Dustinscottc reported by User:Newimpartial (Result: Both users and an IP blocked from page for a week)	30533	45	38	45	17	16	2025-01-02 08:38:00	2025-01-02 16:41:00
ANI	Current	Disruptive Editing from User TarnishedPath	101858	178	193	167	80	17	2025-03-16 00:21:00	2025-03-19 22:01:00
ANI	1182	Proposal: Big Thumpus is limited to article space	28298	46	47	46	44	7	2025-03-03 10:14:00	2025-03-07 08:15:00
ANI	1182	Raoul mishima and Kelvintjy - slow edit warring and non-communicativeness	33376	69	109	68	34	13	2025-02-19 17:49:00	2025-03-07 23:19:00
ANI	1182	TurboSuperA+ closes	67632	88	103	87	64	9	2025-02-28 09:44:00	2025-03-09 11:14:00
ANI	1182	Harassment and attempted outing by User:CoalsCollective.	60325	70	89	69	43	8	2025-03-04 03:32:00	2025-03-09 21:33:00
ANI	1182	Bludgeoning, POV-pushing, personal attacks and incivility from M.Bitton	45331	54	74	54	36	14	2025-03-04 16:07:00	2025-03-11 11:22:00
ANI	1182	User:Lvivske and slow edit warring	33306	74	74	72	32	16	2025-03-10 06:36:00	2025-03-14 02:36:00
ANI	1182	User:Historyk.ok disruptive editing	30676	16	16	16	12	4	2025-03-10 18:15:00	2025-03-14 21:26:00
ANI	1182	Fahrenheit666 on Fort Moore	30331	59	67	51	21	14	2025-03-12 21:59:00	2025-03-16 20:41:00
ANI	1181	Charliephere	35106	82	81	83	27	25	2025-02-23 05:19:00	2025-02-28 02:40:00
ANI	1181	Raoul mishima and Kelvintjy - slow edit warring and non-communicativeness	25275	48	73	48	24	13	2025-02-19 17:49:00	2025-02-28 07:57:00
ANI	1181	Tracking other users' behavior in userspace	39614	49	66	49	45	8	2025-02-27 10:46:00	2025-02-28 13:53:00
ANI	1181	Heavy bludgeoning	39890	85	115	83	56	20	2025-02-18 02:56:00	2025-03-03 08:15:00
ANI	1181	Non-neutral paid editor	192242	245	246	203	85	12	2025-01-16 20:45:00	2025-03-05 06:45:00
ANI	1181	Intimidation tactics, suppression and other violations from Simonm223	85072	100	115	96	58	9	2025-02-19 23:47:00	2025-03-05 18:24:00
ANI	1181	Pretending blindness and ignoring common courtesy	30265	44	44	44	21	15	2025-03-05 08:59:00	2025-03-05 21:26:00
ANI	1180	User:Bwshen may well be an expert, but insists citations aren't always needed - also COI issues	35022	69	78	66	43	17	2025-02-10 00:42:00	2025-02-17 05:54:00
ANI	1180	Return to behaviour from K1ngstowngalway1	34532	43	52	44	27	8	2025-01-31 07:03:00	2025-02-17 07:16:00
ANI	1180	Bias and NOTHERE by Big Thumpus	62118	108	114	105	50	15	2025-02-13 20:30:00	2025-02-21 01:13:00
ANI	1180	WP:BATTLEGROUND & WP:PA by Cerium4B	100614	132	168	121	54	11	2025-02-05 21:01:00	2025-02-21 05:57:00
ANI	1180	bbb23	27713	55	62	59	34	8	2025-02-26 10:50:00	2025-02-27 01:14:00
ANI	1179	User:Hesselp, again (4th ANI notice)	31793	55	58	55	31	14	2025-01-26 18:23:00	2025-02-08 09:21:00
ANI	1179	User:Engage01: 2nd ANI notice	58458	90	106	92	35	10	2025-02-02 11:33:00	2025-02-08 22:41:00
ANI	1179	Harassment and personal attacks	47285	90	94	89	72	9	2025-01-22 07:30:00	2025-02-10 05:49:00
ANI	1179	Off-site harassment from Anatoly Karlin	51665	66	69	65	21	19	2025-02-09 07:47:00	2025-02-11 08:40:00
ANI	1179	Kansascitt1225	53853	51	67	51	49	9	2025-01-26 04:58:00	2025-02-13 07:28:00
ANI	1178	Me (DragonofBatley)	126597	197	238	199	51	17	2025-01-14 06:39:00	2025-01-28 06:08:00
ANI	1178	User:Toa_Nidhiki05: WP:OWN and WP:BATTLEGROUND behaviour.	82047	86	97	59	34	12	2025-01-20 23:40:00	2025-01-29 03:38:00
ANI	1178	Photos of Japan	43181	49	33	70	20	16	2025-01-27 02:10:00	2025-01-30 07:41:00
ANI	1178	Mass Removal of External Links by User:Dronebogus.	38526	72	76	65	45	14	2025-01-23 23:20:00	2025-01-31 03:29:00
ANI	1178	User:Moribundum: incivility and problem editing reported by User:Zenomonoz	69171	58	65	59	26	9	2025-01-28 07:36:00	2025-02-02 09:31:00
ANI	1178	Off-wiki canvassing in relation to Eric Gilbertson and GPS-hobbyist derived data.	48378	98	100	98	34	12	2025-02-01 19:14:00	2025-02-05 06:45:00
ANI	1178	Inappropriate reasons for initial ban + admins refused to remove ban for non specific reasons despite evidence that it was inappropriate	31648	41	47	41	26	14	2025-02-06 00:10:00	2025-02-06 10:08:00
ANI	1177	Stalking from @Iruka13	52795	64	79	59	39	10	2024-11-13 07:18:00	2025-01-19 23:21:00
ANI	1177	Basile Morin, Arionstar and FPC	25243	27	41	29	23	9	2025-01-19 01:32:00	2025-01-20 00:49:00
ANI	1177	User:TTYDDoopliss and gender-related edits	31837	78	83	76	36	13	2025-01-20 23:27:00	2025-01-21 12:18:00
ANI	1177	User:PEPSI697 bad faith towards editors, misuse of tools	31001	36	38	41	27	10	2025-01-15 20:58:00	2025-01-22 05:56:00
ANI	1177	User:Citation bot won't stop adding incorrect dates to articles	41545	73	87	69	46	15	2025-01-14 22:40:00	2025-01-23 22:44:00
ANI	1177	Recent Deletions of Astana Platform Articles and UPE Allegations	25492	27	27	27	25	8	2025-01-23 12:48:00	2025-01-26 23:54:00
ANI	1176	Edit warring to prevent an RFC	94644	125	148	127	46	14	2025-01-05 16:37:00	2025-01-11 13:20:00
ANI	1176	Community block appeal by Drbogdan	31109	37	40	36	33	8	2025-01-08 20:06:00	2025-01-11 23:05:00
ANI	1176	Unconstructive editing by Wolverine X-eye	32567	36	40	42	45	8	2025-01-11 08:29:00	2025-01-13 06:44:00
ANI	1176	Cross-wiki harassment and transphobia from User:DarwIn	146741	284	322	258	134	19	2024-12-29 21:02:00	2025-01-14 08:51:00
ANI	1176	Beeblebrox and copyright unblocks	62669	94	104	85	81	12	2025-01-12 15:03:00	2025-01-15 21:00:00
ANI	1176	Uncivil behavior	33757	34	55	36	32	13	2025-01-11 20:19:00	2025-01-16 01:18:00
ANI	1176	User:Jwa05002 and User:RowanElder Making Ableist Comments On WP:Killing of Jordan Neely Talk Page, Threats In Lead	75257	139	174	123	48	10	2025-01-13 14:19:00	2025-01-17 05:49:00
ANI	1176	Incivility and ABF in contentious topics	143823	279	289	277	113	13	2025-01-04 11:19:00	2025-01-19 02:32:00
ANI	1176	User:Bgsu98 mass-nominating articles for deletion and violating WP:BEFORE	108518	168	210	171	66	14	2025-01-08 09:06:00	2025-01-17 11:52:00
ANI	1175	Complaint against User:GiantSnowman	55566	114	126	112	47	8	2025-01-05 20:00:00	2025-01-08 10:05:00
ANI	1175	Automatic editing, abusive behaviour, and disruptive(ish) wikihounding from User:KMaster888	25024	60	63	48	32	13	2025-01-08 04:53:00	2025-01-09 10:18:00
ANI	1175	Problems with Pipera	27136	16	19	17	19	5	2025-01-08 02:54:00	2025-01-11 07:55:00
AE	Current	Akshaypatill	59292	42	59	37	18	12	2025-02-27 22:50:00	2025-03-07 04:52:00
AE	Current	ImperialAficionado	27457	33	36	39	21	10	2025-02-28 04:32:00	2025-03-11 07:03:00
AE	Current	Hu741f4	34586	29	44	27	14	9	2025-03-05 21:59:00	2025-03-14 00:55:00
AE	Current	3rdspace	56120	71	90	60	33	9	2025-03-09 10:52:00	2025-03-18 00:44:00
AE	Current	Johnadams11	26557	24	34	25	14	6	2025-03-09 16:17:00	2025-03-17 07:45:00
AE	349	Toa Nidhiki05	58745	46	47	35	27	6	2025-02-04 02:04:00	2025-02-18 22:14:00
AE	348	BabbleOnto	40564	40	48	39	33	7	2025-01-14 01:34:00	2025-01-30 04:12:00
AE	348	שלומית ליר	39590	48	46	40	35	4	2025-01-12 01:24:00	2025-02-06 00:32:00
AE	348	Ekdalian	33033	29	29	28	24	4	2025-01-01 22:16:00	2025-02-10 07:28:00
AE	348	Callmehelper	25548	18	26	19	16	7	2025-01-24 02:30:00	2025-02-16 15:01:00
AE	347	PerspicazHistorian	32629	49	71	43	33	6	2024-12-04 22:44:00	2025-01-09 11:34:00
BLPN	366	Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ido Kedar	44475	77	85	77	23	16	2025-01-16 18:34:00	2025-01-25 01:57:00
FTN	Current	Society for Evidence-Based Gender Medicine	228531	259	320	253	132	17	2025-02-03 04:58:00	2025-03-10 05:01:00
FTN	Current	Is WPATH the gold standard for research on trans healthcare in academia?	85491	103	108	92	66	11	2025-02-05 03:25:00	2025-03-18 03:50:00
FTN	Current	Pathologization of trans identities	279105	345	353	311	71	20	2025-02-07 21:59:00	2025-03-24 09:01:00
FTN	Current	Do RSes need to conform to dictionaries in order for us to use them to call a climate change denialist?	48435	80	82	72	41	12	2025-02-07 23:22:00	2025-03-16 23:42:00
FTN	104	Misandry	25011	41	54	41	35	10	2025-01-12 14:07:00	2025-01-24 23:02:00
FTN	104	Vladimir Bukovsky and the Russian hacker conspiracy	32501	51	52	51	12	25	2025-01-20 13:49:00	2025-02-05 20:44:00
FTN	104	Puberty blockers in children	51122	53	53	52	47	7	2025-02-04 09:06:00	2025-02-21 04:07:00
FTN	104	Is being anti-trans WP:FRINGE?	39088	43	45	38	35	9	2025-02-19 12:09:00	2025-02-21 08:38:00
FTN	103	Gain of function research	34491	57	55	55	28	14	2024-12-16 17:21:00	2025-01-04 13:24:00
NORN	Current	Involve (think tank) alleged controversy with trustee involved in tobacoo industry	40092	45	53	45	21	9	2025-02-07 04:55:00	2025-03-15 23:05:00
NORN	53	White Mexicans and blood type	57824	91	98	94	23	23	2025-01-28 14:42:00	2025-02-13 14:20:00
NPOVN	Current	Geography map dispute	111603	224	238	222	48	20	2025-02-22 08:42:00	2025-03-14 07:10:00
NPOVN	115	2024 United States presidential election	76252	113	126	111	43	15	2025-01-09 05:46:00	2025-01-29 05:28:00
RSN	Current	Is the Cass Review a reliable source?	92087	107	112	105	62	9	2025-02-21 06:50:00	2025-03-19 16:54:00
RSN	Current	When RS make false claims, we do not treat them as true.	47113	48	49	49	26	9	2025-03-17 09:11:00	2025-03-20 01:44:00
RSN	470	SOHR (Syrian Observatory for Human Rights)	30428	24	25	23	12	10	2025-02-19 06:23:00	2025-03-03 23:23:00
RSN	470	Question as to the reliability/value of a video for inclusion	44848	74	80	71	29	11	2025-03-03 22:56:00	2025-03-05 07:06:00
RSN	470	Request to Include The Dhimmi: Jews and Christians Under Islam by Bat Ye’or as a Reliable Source	46634	81	80	76	23	14	2025-02-28 03:51:00	2025-03-11 03:50:00
RSN	470	Kirkuk–Haifa oil pipeline and WP:CIRCULAR	25690	39	20	40	21	11	2025-03-08 08:20:00	2025-03-11 22:50:00
RSN	469	Erin Reed, LA Blade, and Cass Review: Does republication of SPS in a non SPS publication remove SPS?	165288	168	180	168	70	13	2025-01-29 09:24:00	2025-02-25 21:39:00
RSN	469	Use of US government sources after January 20, 2025	48855	64	62	63	61	10	2025-02-15 07:00:00	2025-02-27 07:48:00
RSN	468	The Times of Israel and fake news.	28013	47	45	46	38	8	2025-02-07 16:03:00	2025-02-19 02:15:00
RSN	467	Forbes contributor David Axe	50982	69	70	66	29	17	2025-02-07 21:50:00	2025-02-17 21:46:00
RSN	467	RfC: Jacobin	156406	253	261	229	182	20	2021-07-19 04:10:00	2025-02-21 01:08:00
RSN	466	Useage of Arabic-language sources in Battle of Ash-Shihr (1523)	26393	45	52	45	11	11	2025-01-06 23:22:00	2025-02-04 05:42:00
RSN	466	Hope Not Hate?	36819	66	67	65	25	10	2025-02-01 12:59:00	2025-02-04 19:38:00
RSN	466	pinkvilla.com - reliability disclaimers on pages	26443	37	36	35	25	15	2025-01-28 16:47:00	2025-02-06 14:46:00
RSN	466	pinkvilla.com - reliability disclaimers on pages	26441	37	36	35	25	15	2025-01-28 16:47:00	2025-02-06 14:46:00
RSN	465	GBNews can be reliable for group based child sex exploitation	35552	56	48	46	24	11	2025-01-14 03:20:00	2025-01-19 01:11:00
RSN	465	Pirate Wires?	30789	70	69	67	42	12	2025-01-15 04:42:00	2025-01-26 02:43:00
RSN	465	RfC: Geni.com, MedLands, genealogy.eu	51991	83	85	77	31	9	2024-12-31 13:09:00	2025-02-03 22:27:00
RSN	464	Ken Klippenstein on Killing of Brian Thompson	34489	57	58	57	29	21	2024-12-31 10:54:00	2025-01-11 05:26:00
RSN	464	Nigerian newspapers	69908	108	106	103	60	11	2024-12-19 01:29:00	2025-01-17 14:56:00
RSN	464	MintPress News	36761	38	40	38	25	11	2025-01-12 19:58:00	2025-01-16 07:05:00
RSN	463	RFC Science-Based Medicine	89547	174	182	174	81	18	2024-12-06 09:20:00	2025-01-11 18:05:00
RSN	463	Jeff Sneider / The InSneider	72990	78	82	78	19	19	2024-12-21 05:16:00	2025-01-09 03:52:00
RSN	462	RfC: Al-Manar	68771	144	139	136	67	21	2024-11-15 11:08:00	2025-01-03 09:32:00
BN	Current	Resysop Request (NaomiAmethyst)	54289	107	109	96	67	17	2025-03-10 12:06:00	2025-03-19 01:13:00
DRN	Current	The Left (Germany)	31114	42	44	42	22	8	2025-03-07 04:54:00	2025-04-04 03:54:00
DRN	254	Jehovah's Witnesses	26305	34	38	32	13	13	2025-01-19 02:57:00	2025-01-25 20:48:00
DRN	254	Battle of Ash-Shihr (1523)	37749	40	40	39	10	9	2025-01-01 03:39:00	2025-02-07 23:24:00
DRN	254	Urartu	32378	18	19	16	9	4	2025-01-16 00:39:00	2025-02-13 00:39:00
DRN	253	Autism	353378	287	372	289	34	19	2024-12-20 23:46:00	2025-01-17 16:26:00
VPR	Current	Should other groups be able to use 2FA by default?	37898	59	58	55	39	8	2025-02-12 00:13:00	2025-03-19 00:01:00
VPR	217	Reviving / Reopening Informal Mediation (WP:MEDCAB)	50118	47	53	39	50	6	2025-01-25 17:57:00	2025-02-26 02:07:00
VPR	216	RfC: Log the use of the HistMerge tool at both the merge target and merge source	27535	49	51	48	41	9	2024-11-20 23:51:00	2025-01-02 11:10:00
VPR	216	Proposal to prohibit the creation of new "T:" pseudo-namespace redirects without prior consensus	31533	67	63	50	50	8	2025-01-21 06:17:00	2025-02-02 07:08:00
VPP	Current	Should WP:Demonstrate good faith include mention of AI-generated comments?	105633	198	181	215	110	16	2025-01-02 08:23:00	2025-03-18 00:48:00
VPP	Current	RfC: Amending ATD-R	61607	103	97	91	46	12	2025-01-24 09:54:00	2025-03-31 09:01:00
VPP	200	Upgrade MOS:ALBUM to an official guideline	29262	43	44	42	22	7	2025-01-13 22:28:00	2025-01-16 05:10:00
VPP	200	RfC: Voluntary RfA after resignation	82006	173	177	149	163	8	2024-12-16 05:14:00	2025-01-20 06:01:00
VPP	200	General reliability discussions have failed at reducing discussion, have become locus of conflict with external parties, and should be curtailed	28111	38	40	36	38	7	2025-01-22 23:54:00	2025-02-06 03:39:00
VPP	200	The real use case for AI on Wikipedia	27138	55	52	45	41	15	2025-02-10 10:18:00	2025-02-19 09:32:00
VPP	199	LLM/chatbot comments in discussions	262672	408	394	388	251	12	2024-12-02 08:12:00	2025-01-13 12:28:00
VPM	80	Heritage Foundation intending to "identify and target" editors	86113	190Sm	192	185	148	12	2025-01-08 07:28:00	2025-01-15 11:27:00
VPIL	Current	What do we want on the front page?	66279	119	124	105	53	12	2025-02-04 06:51:00	2025-03-18 19:50:00
VPIL	Current	Dealing with sportspeople stubs	57898	95	98	94	46	16	2025-02-20 08:29:00	2025-03-08 01:57:00
VPIL	64	Implemeting "ChatBot Validation" for sentences of Wikipedia	31895	61	88	58	40	9	2025-01-06 18:34:00	2025-01-30 23:06:00
VPIL	63	Opt-in content warnings and image hiding	110267	208	216	181	60	24	2024-12-11 15:34:00	2025-01-04 01:07:00

Getting ready; new deadline

Publishing challenge accepted!

I've reset the publication countdown to Friday evening (my time; US Pacific), and have done some copyediting. News and notes is still open for editing if somebody can get more content there. I'd like to declare In the media done, unless something really big comes up. ☆ Bri (talk) 00:12, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I will not be able to run Wegweiser (which populates the module database and enables e.g. the single-talk page to work) because the scripts are on my computer and I will be sleeping in my car today and possibly tomorrow. As a stopgap it is also possible to populate the module database with SignpostTagger. I believe SPS.js is working properly and you should be able to use it without issue. One of the problems a few issues ago was that there was a redirect in the Next issue space, but all other script bugs are fixed. jp×g 🗯️ 07:16, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I am marking all the articles as approved but make sure they are c/ed before running (if not already). Particularly the obit needs to have its original authors filled. jp×g 🗯️ 07:27, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Bestimmt ☆ Bri (talk) 14:02, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I just added another story to N&N (and removed the story placeholder). It could still use some copyediting - in particular to style the quotes consistently - and an image and a more interesting headline would be nice. But it should otherwise be publishable already. Note though that the "Brief notes" section still has two open TKTKs.

I can look into those things myself later, but should first get the rest of R&R up (to Bri's question below: I will have something publishable by the deadline, although I could also make use of some more time if that happens to be the case). Regards, HaeB (talk) 00:26, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I just realized that publication will be on the first full day following the Northern Hemisphere's spring equinox. Maybe a related quick note from the editor is appropriate? Any ideas? ☆ Bri (talk) 14:07, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bri Maybe a Hanami-style note would be fun enough?

By the way, I wanted to copy-edit ITM a little more, since I haven't managed to do anything in thr last few days (I'm so sorry for that...). Oltrepier (talk) 17:56, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Very nice idea for an angle. As a by-the-way, I'm surprised the Hanami article doesn't mention Seattle (shown in my picture here); it has deep historical connections to Japan.

@JPxG: I don't know if you are able, but if you want to take over From the editor draft, it's yours. Otherwise I'll probably get some more publishable text in there tonight. ☆ Bri (talk) 18:13, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bri @JPxG Fancy a suggestion for a spring-themed haiku, too?

I've got one by Kobayashi Issa (it's on the Italian Wikiquote, by the way): "Plum flowers: | it's an ecstasy | my spring". Oltrepier (talk) 20:15, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Incorporated the haiku, thanks. ☆ Bri (talk) 17:41, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JPxG: I'm comfortable approving Traffic report, In the media, Recent research, and News and notes, and of course my own From the editor(s). But did you want to retain say-so over the Opinion item? ☆ Bri (talk) 17:44, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Calling on copyeditors

@Gerald Waldo Luis, Headbomb, Isaacl, and Adam Cuerden: copyeditors listed at WP:Wikipedia Signpost/About: can we get help copyediting on open sections including In the media by the Friday deadline? Most particularly, In the media and News and notes ☆ Bri (talk) 04:39, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I'll try to find some time today. No promises, but I'll see what I can do. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 09:35, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bri I'll do my best, as well! Oltrepier (talk) 10:33, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Waiting just a bit longer before publishing, to see if any volunteer copyediting happens on In the media or News and notes. It will be tonight, though (Pacific Time). ☆ Bri (talk) 02:24, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Calling it done

OK everybody, please stay out of the pages until it is published. I will start in about 10 minutes. @Smallbones: apologies in advance but I'm going to chicken out and wait for JPxG's approval on the Opinion piece you authored. ☆ Bri (talk) 02:44, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't had any feedback or seen any complaints, could you let me know what the hangup is? It's an opinion piece so there is a little leeway - I do get to state my own opinion! Will it be published late? Like say an hour late? Waiting for three weeks again (without an answer!) - I would not consider that to be acceptable. Sorry to send my complaint to you @Bri:. Are we going to hear from @JPxG: within an hour? Smallbones_(smalltalk) 02:58, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I just ran the publishing script without the Opinion sorry. There was an error during the page moves, but I think I straightened it out manually. ☆ Bri (talk) 03:05, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Spot checked some talkpage subscribers, looks good. I'm going to hang up the PC until tomorrow. Happy weekend, all! ☆ Bri (talk) 03:08, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bri: I just sent you an email. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 03:10, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The opinion by Smallbones is good and should be run -- I thought I had gotten to it when I was going over the submissions. jp×g 🗯️ 07:26, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Oh it has already run. Shit! I thought the deadline was the 22nd still... jp×g 🗯️ 07:26, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I am moving boxes for the next seven hours so I cannot do anything about this. God damn it -- @Smallbones this is my fault, apologies. jp×g 🗯️ 07:44, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bri and JPxG: per my talk page, let's retropublish it asap. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 10:40, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Done (see below), with my feathers completely smoothed. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 15:33, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Watchlist notice

Was the new addition announced via a watchlist notice? I didn't see it. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 15:33, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The script added a request under my name, but it hasn't been acted on yet. To my knowledge, I can't just do it myself, with my permissions. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:28, 23 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WMF takedown in Hebrew Wikipedia

See he:Special:Diff/40638036. WMF have redacted - but not oversighted several comments made in 2014, based on a court order. GZWDer (talk) 13:27, 6 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@GZWDer: - thanks for letting us know about this. I'll also send an email to legal and try to get a statement. Just to ask a couple of small specific questions and get any statements you wish to make.

I've tried to get a sense of what this is all about by reading about half of the 68 page file linked at GZWDer's link (just the first 21 pages and the last 8 pages). This note is to let other Signposters see if this is an article that they'd like to write up. It will be difficult IMHO, but has lots of things in it that most editors can relate too.

It doesn't seem to be related to India, heritage, Elon Musk, etc.

This is a first impression of less than half of the above material, and there is no guarantee that it is correct (i.e. something like a draft of a pre-draft first draft written on the back of a napkin)

The story is about a user back in 2014 that seemed to have won a court decision (or maybe it just took a long time to get thru the courts the first time!) But this decision was written very recently. It's all about the HeWiki, nothing about ENwiki, nothing about the current war, apparently nothing about politics (?). The user had some claim to be a productive editor but ran into problems with other editors, something like what an LTA might run into. Defamation settlement (I didn't see any money involved) requires some apologies and removal of material. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 20:38, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JSutherland (WMF): Smallbones_(smalltalk) 20:41, 9 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I've provided a reply to your email to legal

wikimedia.org. Cheers, BChoo (WMF) (talk) 18:41, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

An English translation of the court order by WMF attorneys. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 09:34, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Small clarification: as per the file description, it was "Translated from the original Hebrew by external sender." BChoo (WMF) (talk) 14:42, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

21:4 Recent research

As usual, we are preparing this regular survey on recent academic research about Wikipedia, doubling as the Wikimedia Research Newsletter (now in its fifteenth volume). Help is welcome to review or summarize the many interesting items listed here, as are suggestions of other new research papers that haven't been covered yet. Regards, HaeB (talk) 06:05, 11 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@HaeB: Deadline is coming up. Shall we publish what we have now, or wait? ☆ Bri (talk) 23:30, 21 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion reports

A very long time ago, I wrote some software that could retrieve noticeboard/VP threads (active and archived), and parse them for metadata (length, timestamps, users mentioned/signatures present, as well as the actual text etc). I am thinking that this may be useful for outlining skeletons for discussion reports: a script that just answers the question of "what the hell were people talking about the last couple of weeks?"

I think part of the reason this column is hard to write is because it not only requires analysis and writing about the actual discussions, but also a great deal of trawling through mountains of quotidian "hey guys there's a vandal" filings to unearth stuff that actually has an impact on the editing community in some way.

What do you all think of this? jp×g 🗯️ 17:51, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I like "quotidian". But more seriously, maybe we should just start running the scripts and seeing "if you build it, they will come", where they are interested in writing the column. Another idea -- we did an experiment with LLM (AI) summaries in the past, would the EiC be in favor of continuing the experiment with this? ☆ Bri (talk) 17:57, 14 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I like the word "quotidian" also. In French "quotidien" (or "journal quotidien" in full), logically enough, means daily newspaper. Just like the English "daily" for "daily newspaper". I just checked my memory and the Google AI confirmed it. If we want to write more about our daily activities (which I'm not against) we'd probably need at bit of AI (which I'm just a bit skeptical about). Run the bot, store the output where people can browse (but not part of the newspaper), and let people know we have it in case they want to write an article and *check every AI detail*. This may make it more, not less, time consuming, but it wouldn't be a bad experiment. Make sure to label it "AI aided" or similar up top. Now how are we going to make that announcement? Smallbones_(smalltalk) 17:43, 16 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Is there an example of how the output of such a script would look like concretely? But yes, in generally I agree it would be useful to experiment more with automation there, including LLM summaries (especially considering that technology has progressed quite a bit since e.g. these 2022 experiments), as an intermediate tool followed by manual review. Regards, HaeB (talk) 21:45, 17 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, so after quite a bit of sifting through manure and remembering API stuff, I have in my hand a list of 1,395 Village Pump threads from the last couple archives of each, ostensibly since the beginning of this year (although archives on slow-moving boards can go back pretty far). There are some, uh, quirks: mostly that I have not finished writing the software, so it does not work very well and a bunch of stuff is manual.

Nonetheless, sorting by length gives at least a very obvious solid basis for some stuff we could write about. Here are the top 40 for example: jp×g 🗯️ 11:37, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pump	Section	Size
WP:VPP	LLM/chatbot comments in discussions	263647
WP:VPP	Fringe Theories Noticeboard, religious topics, and WP:CANVAS	235898
WP:VPR	RfC: Extended confirmed pending changes (PCECP)	121536
WP:VPIL	Opt-in content warnings and image hiding	110752
WP:VPP	Should WP:Demonstrate good faith include mention of AI-generated comments?	105874
WP:VPR	CheckUser for all new users	89323
WP:VPM	Heritage Foundation intending to "identify and target" editors	86482
WP:VPP	RfC: Voluntary RfA after resignation	82290
WP:VPIL	What do we want on the front page?	66420
WP:VPR	Survey (PCECP)	62465
WP:VPIL	Fix Draftification with a new template	62205
WP:VPP	Can we hide sensitive graphic photos?	62089
WP:VPP	RfC: Amending ATD-R	61677
WP:VPP	Administrator Recall	58044
WP:VPIL	Dealing with sportspeople stubs	58043
WP:VPIL	Determining who should be an electionadmin	55386
WP:VPWMF	Will you be moving operations overseas?	53350
WP:VPIL	New users, lack of citation on significant expansion popup confirmation before publishing	52862
WP:VPP	We need to fix the admin recall process	50922
WP:VPM	Is football player contract expires means still registered in a football club?	49909
WP:VPWMF	Responding to Katherine Maher / Uri Berliner Story	47220
WP:VPIL	Avoiding a long month of drama	45770
WP:VPT	VPNgate blocking bot	42663
WP:VPR	Reviving / Reopening Informal Mediation (WP:MEDCAB)	40745
WP:VPM	Reliable sources controversy	39831
WP:VPR	Should other groups be able to use 2FA by default?	38023
WP:VPIL	Describing Notability in plain English	34912
WP:VPR	Page views link in the Tools menu	33511
WP:VPWMF	Proposal: WMF should hire a full-time developer to do basic maintenance on MediaWiki	33293
WP:VPIL	Implemeting "ChatBot Validation" for sentences of Wikipedia	32052
WP:VPWMF	Let's configure: Suggested Edits	30274
WP:VPR	Proposal to prohibit the creation of new "T:" pseudo-namespace redirects without prior consensus	29598
WP:VPP	Upgrade MOS:ALBUM to an official guideline	29376
WP:VPR	Proposal to update WP:NBAND to be explicitly constrained by WP:GNG	28968
WP:VPP	General reliability discussions have failed at reducing discussion, have become locus of conflict with external parties, and should be curtailed	28313
WP:VPR	RfC: Log the use of the HistMerge tool at both the merge target and merge source	27733
WP:VPIL	Creating Template:Wikidata Infobox	27288
WP:VPIL	Can we consider EC level pending changes?	27229
WP:VPP	The real use case for AI on Wikipedia	27196
WP:VPR	Redesigning locks and other icons	26566

The links do not work properly because I copied this out of a text file and haven't finished the thing that makes it output correctly, but the general idea is here. Compare to, e.g. a random selection of stuff from e.g. Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 201, which is almost all stuff of no account, I think this provides a pretty good basis for actual writing. I don't really have time to actually write stuff out of it for this issue, but I think it is at least something. jp×g 🗯️ 11:42, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This does look useful (obviously one would want to confine it to more recent ones; looks like these results go back almost a year or more - but I assume that's on the agenda). I would consider including the number of editors who commented as an additional metric. Regards, HaeB (talk) 18:03, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I believe everything is now fixed, and I ran it over everything from 2025 -- sortable table (that counts first timestamp, last timestamp, discussion size, signature count and unique userlinks) is at Special:Permalink/1281329629.

21:4 In the media

I put in a top story for an Anti-Defamation League report that I don't have time to summarize or even read fully. However, I suggest that the writer consider this for incorporation.

ADL applied analytics to the set of what they call 30 bad faith pro-Hamas editors to highlight unusual editing patterns. One result was that they edited more actively than other groups, even a group of editors involved in the PIA topic, and a similarly sized group randomly selected from the 5,000 most active English Wikipedians. The "bad faith" editors as a whole were about 50% more active than the next most active group, measured by total edits over the past 10 years. The top 5 "bad faith" editors were also 40% more active than the next most active group, measured by edits per day undertaken by the top 5 editors in control groups. Evidence said to indicate coordinated editing included a "tandem editing" metric, which looked at edits made by group members within an hour of each other on the same page over the last ten years. In this metric, the "bad faith" group made over 50% more "tandem" edits than the PIA group (71,855 versus 45,925), and almost 150 times as many than the most-active Wikipedians control group (486).

☆ Bri (talk) 18:22, 18 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Bri Thank you for the suggestion.

By the way, who wrote the other stories? I don't see any reference to that... (tagging @Smallbones and @Bluerasberry for consideration). Oltrepier (talk) 21:01, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I just added – S to about half of both halves of Itm. I think they mostly wrote themselves this month, so anybody should remove my initial and/or add their own if they feel like it. The 2 Gaza related stories aren't really my work. BTW, I put my take on the ADL story on User talk:Jimbo Wales which I guess addresses Bri's comment above, but it's not journalism. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 21:46, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

WP:APPNOTE

Template_talk:Press#Does_Anti-Defamation_League,_specifically_Editing_for_Hate:_How_Anti-Israel_and_Anti-Jewish_Bias_Undermines_Wikipedia’s_Neutrality_fit_in_this_template?, if you have an opinion, please join the discussion. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:26, 19 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

21:5 In the media

Moved to draft

Trump nominees "trashed", "smeared"
- Wikipedia posts updated to smear Patel, Hegseth, Gabbard: Watchdog from Washington Examiner; cites report from Media Research Center
- "How biased Wikipedia trashed Trump’s nominees — after he named them" New York Post, based on same MRC report
Wikipedia Editors Place Moratorium on Controversial Sentence in Zionism Article from Jewish Journal; author says his prior reporting "highlighted how the [now locked-in] sentence [in the lede of 'Zionism'] resulted from anti-Israel editors primarily citing anti-Zionist historians"
"Wikipedia for Palestine", cover story for print issue of March 21–27 Jewish Journal, repelete with full page white-green-red banded puzzle globe
"How obscure is prospective Celtics buyer William Chisholm? He didn’t have a Wikipedia page until Thursday." Boston Globe claim confirmed - Special:Permalink/1281470505 created 20 March 15:something UTC

https://sundayguardianlive.com/investigation/deconstructing-wikipedia-its-biased-lopsided-and-partisan

Holding for next issue. ☆ Bri (talk) 20:47, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moved verbatim to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Next issue/In the media. ☆ Bri (talk) 16:00, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Colossal Tech for Palestine dossier

A news source has posted a dossier relating to Tech for Palestine (as in this). We'll have to decide what to do with it for The Signpost. I'm not even sure if it's OK to post a link. ☆ Bri (talk) 22:54, 20 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Retropublishing 21:4 Opinion

I'm happy to republish to include the 21:4 Opinion. Would this entail moving articles back to "next issue" and re-running the publishing script? Or manually inserting Opinion into the main page? I think the first option would result in two mass messages which may ruffle feathers. The second would not update the contents page delivered to talkpages. ☆ Bri (talk) 14:28, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I added Opinion to the issue and the main table of contents at WP:POST. There's a couple more manual steps to go... ☆ Bri (talk) 14:48, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Added Opinion to archive TOC at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2025-03-22.

I attempted to update Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2025-03-22 by purging the page with the link at the bottom, but it is not updating. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:02, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Now Opinion is showing up at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Single/2025-03-22. Must have been some kind of caching delay.

Next step, I'll prepare a new mass-message to notify talkpage deliverees that there's a new section, but I won't send it until it's been discussed. ☆ Bri (talk) 15:09, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much @Bri and JPxG: I understand the extra work involved and appreciate it. The last step, about sending a new talkpage message sounds to me like a step too far. It was just an oversight which was corrected and I don't want to magnify it. Smallbones_(smalltalk) 15:25, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

(EC) that works for me Smallbones_(smalltalk) 15:25, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Reconsidered the mass message, I don't think it is necessary because the single-page TOC appears to be transcluded to the subscribers' talkpages, and has magically updated already. So, I think we're done with re-publishing! ☆ Bri (talk) 15:19, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, transcluding the page onto the talkpage MMS makes it possible to do stuff like correct typos (or in this case retropublish) without spamming thousands of edits and blowing up everyone's notifications. The main drawback is the difficulty of doing it manually, and also that the email and global message delivery doesn't include it. Ah well. I have just gotten home and I see that everything has been done -- I've also run the script to update the modules. Thanks to everyone!! jp×g 🗯️ 16:03, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe this goes without saying, but this kind of "retropublishing" should remain a very rare exception, for many reasons. Regards, HaeB (talk) 02:33, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

It is corrosive to the soul, yes. jp×g 🗯️ 02:11, 26 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

21:5 News and notes

I will be putting random stuff here that I see of note. jp×g 🗯️ 22:31, 24 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I added one ☆ Bri (talk) 05:26, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a nice update about the WikiWikiWeb anniversary! Oltrepier (talk) 18:44, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@JPxG @Bri I definitely won't be able to go through that whole interview with Cunningham, but if you can, I hope it will be helpful! Oltrepier (talk) 18:48, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/43rd parallel south (114 articles batched -- is that a record?)
WikiWikiWeb, the first wiki, launched March 25, 1995, 30 years ago; can we include this? It was not noted at WP:OTD. There's some coverage about this in the media, as well, and the wiki's founder, Ward Cunningham, has recently been interviewed by Yaron Koren on the "Between the Brackets" podcast!

More than 7,000 accounts apparently compromised

See m:Special:Log/WMFOffice - more than 7000 accounts are locked today. GZWDer (talk) 19:18, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have not been able to find any announcements about this on wikimedia-l or elsewhere. ☆ Bri (talk) 23:58, 25 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have also posted at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(miscellaneous)#More_than_29,000_accounts_compromised.--GZWDer (talk) 10:50, 27 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]