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Question from JaipurEditorR (09:36, 22 April 2025)
[edit]Hello Ixtal,
I am JaipurEditorR, a new editor on Wikipedia. I’m excited to start contributing and learning how to edit articles effectively.
As you have been assigned as my mentor, I wanted to introduce myself. I'm currently interested in learning how to add references, make small edits, and gradually take on more advanced editing tasks.
If you have any tips for beginners or if there are specific areas where I can start practicing, I would really appreciate your guidance.
Thank you for supporting new editors like me! 🙏
Looking forward to learning with your help.
— JaipurEditorR --JaipurEditorR (talk) 09:36, 22 April 2025 (UTC)
Hi, you recently added several Excessive citations inline templates on the work I had done on this article. I believe this is an error, because
- The template documentation says it is to be used if the citations "make the article unreadable or may lead to confusion about what exactly each citation is used in support of." The content I provided is perfectly readable and each paragraph is deliberately 'bite-size', so the citations do not cause any readability issues.
- If one clicks on the phrase excessive citations which is produced by the template, it takes them to a help page which talks about putting all citations at the end of a passage for readability, exactly as I have done.
- If you have ever read more than one botanical description of a plant, especially a plant that has a vast distribution and varying forms in the regions like this one, you will see that every one of them is slightly different. This is why I have cited, and always do cite, multiple descriptions.
If your issue with my work is something else, please clarify that in your reply, and kindly remove the templates. Cheers, Steve. Junglenut ☼ Talk 04:33, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Junglenut: My issue is that 5 citations are excessive for a single sentence, that multiple sentences each with 5 citations is excessive. Which is why, for each of the spots that you put 5 citations, I put the tag. I will restore the tags. Please pare down the citations such that only the citations needed to support the assertions are used. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:20, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @UtherSRG: I agree that 5 citations are, in most cases, excessive for a single sentence. But that's not the case here as none of the citations I've presented apply to a single sentence, instead they apply to the paragraph to which they are appended. To paraphrase what I have already said, a plant that has a vast range will undoubtedly have slightly different characteristics across that range. Even a plant that occupies a small area will be described differently by two different botanists because of their subjective dispositions, so if the article is based on one source, then it is inaccurate. I have used five sources and averaged their statements to produce my descriptions. If you care to look at those sources you will see the differences. I am not willing to remove any of them. Junglenut ☼ Talk 13:04, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- If you've averaged data from multiple sources, you've performed original research and that is even worse. Please only report what is in the references. Do not use that data to create your own data. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:20, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
- @UtherSRG: I agree that 5 citations are, in most cases, excessive for a single sentence. But that's not the case here as none of the citations I've presented apply to a single sentence, instead they apply to the paragraph to which they are appended. To paraphrase what I have already said, a plant that has a vast range will undoubtedly have slightly different characteristics across that range. Even a plant that occupies a small area will be described differently by two different botanists because of their subjective dispositions, so if the article is based on one source, then it is inaccurate. I have used five sources and averaged their statements to produce my descriptions. If you care to look at those sources you will see the differences. I am not willing to remove any of them. Junglenut ☼ Talk 13:04, 23 April 2025 (UTC)
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[edit]Reworded as you suggest. Many thanks Notafly (talk) 19:32, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
Question from Damianerico (06:48, 29 April 2025)
[edit]I just noted that I expressed interest in too many fields and would like to get specific edit suggestions. How do I remove the bulk. I'd want to specialize in a few. Thanks --Damianerico (talk) 06:48, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- @Damianerico: I don't know what you mean. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:32, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
- sorry my question was rather vague but I already got some assistance. Thank you Damianerico (talk) 13:21, 29 April 2025 (UTC)
where is the sandbox --Sotsce (talk) 04:11, 30 April 2025 (UTC)
- It depends on what skin you are using. I'm not using the most recent skin so I can't tell you. For me, it's at the very top of every page. - UtherSRG (talk) 10:10, 30 April 2025 (UTC)