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https://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2016/10/10/how-sonic-the-hedgehog-3-became-two-games-sonic-and-knuckles-lock-on-technology.aspx
https://www.gamerevolution.com/features/498359-michael-jackson-sonic-the-hedgehog-3
https://www.vg247.com/sonic-3-ost-michael-jackson-history
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqfSBnqUDcg (Brad Buxer interview, sheds a ton of insight on Jackson's (minimal) contributions)
"The Making of Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & + Sonic & Knuckles" in Retro Gamer #249

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New interview translation

There's quite a juicy interview with Naka about the development of various early Sonic games here: http://shmuplations.com/sonic/

Origins' replacement tracks allegedly being "new" remixes made by Jun Senoue

Discussion moved to Talk:Sonic_Origins#Origins'_replacement_tracks_allegedly_being_"new"_remixes_made_by_Jun_Senoue

Amy Rose in Sonic 3 and Knuckles

I added a footnote about Amy Rose now being a playable character in Sonic the Hedgehog 3 and Knuckles for Sonic Origins. Has anyone a better way of conveying this on the article? Nebulous2357 (talk) 04:23, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps as a sentence in the last paragraph of the Ports section which focuses exclusively on the Origins port? Red Phoenix ^talk 12:09, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I believe that's how I've seen other editors do it on the other Origins game articles. Sergecross73 msg me 14:18, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've merged this into the article with sources. I removed the footnote around Hyper Tails's name or whatever as that seems like trivia to me. Popcornfud (talk) 14:40, 23 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

New Jackson source

https://nintendoeverything.com/sonic-3-michael-jackson-involvement/

Not entirely sure what to make of this. The plus side is that there's a Sega staffer directly stating Jackson worked on the soundtrack. But they make it sound like all of his work was scrapped, and that wouldn't really explain the soundtrack changes in Origins (unless that's covered outside of what Nintendo Everything transcribed.) Sergecross73 msg me 00:15, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

From a quick glance, Hector's just telling the story he's always told (and is already in the article)—that Jackson worked on the soundtrack but his contributions were removed. Looks like this might give us a bit more to work with, though. JOE BRO ⁶⁴ 01:15, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I don't really see this as changing the story much as we know it. It seems there's always been confusion among the people involved here about exactly what happened and how much of the MJ material remained in the game.

I wouldn't be surprised if Hector never even played the finished version of Sonic 3 or had any idea which pieces of music were composed by different people. I once worked with a business director of an AAA game studio who asked me what "RPG" stood for. Popcornfud (talk) 15:08, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've always thought that was the case. He implies that Drossin made a lot of music but Drossin has listened to the soundtrack and only pointed out the S&K title screen theme, new Knuckles' theme, and their related jingles as his. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 16:05, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, honestly, after re-reading the section, I forgot how much we already knew about all of this by now. That guy getting all fired up about that Yuki Naka quote last month was making me think we had less "confirmed" about the MJ saga than we really do. I think its one of those situations where I forgot where we're at as far as "what's confirmed by reliable sources in the Wikipedia sense" and "what's confirmed by the fanbase on the fansites". I was thinking there was more of a discrepancy than there really was. This can be disregarded. Sergecross73 msg me 16:15, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]